Every year, the MEDIA likes to hype up a few pitchers as “the next big thing”. Let’s take a look at some names that Peter Gammons, Internet message boards, and other “experts” have hyped.
Zach Duke was supposed to have saved the Pirates franchise, especially since he started the 2005 season at 8-2, 1.81. People were already anointing him a Cy Young candidate. But take a look what he’s done since 2006:
2006: 10-15, 4.47
2007: 3-8, 5.53
2008 (so far): 4-10, 5.13
“King” Felix Hernandez was hailed as the “next Doc Gooden” up in Seattle, and is still considered to have the best stuff for any pitcher in baseball.
2005: 4-4, 2.67
2006: 12-14, 4.52
2007: 14-7, 3.92
2008 (so far): 7-7, 3.04
He’s showing improvement, and at 22 years young, he probably will have a super career if he can stay healthy. Playing on a horrible team like the Mariners doesn’t help his Win/Loss record. That being said, you’d figure “the most talented pitcher in baseball” would have a lower ERA.
Phil Hughes was pegged as the best homegrown Yankees talent since Andy Pettitte, with the potential to be an ace. Unfortunately, injuries have made his two seasons look like this:
2007: 5-3, 4.46
2008 (so far): 0-4, 9.00
His teammate Joba Chamberlain, meanwhile, someone who kinda came out of nowhere:
2007: 2-0, 0.38
2008 (so far): 4-3, 2.63
How about Cole Hammels, a Peter Gammons favorite? Well, this #1 Phillies draft pick actually is better than most veterans, and seems to be a legit ace pitching in a hitter’s ballpark, although he hasn’t thrown 200 innings in any of his 3 seasons yet:
2006: 9-8, 4.08
2007: 15-5, 3.39
2008 (so far): 9-7, 3.37
Remember the Tigers were supposed to have the best young pitching in the game? Let’s take a look at actual production of their two young studs:
Justin Verlander
2005: 0-2, 7.15
2006: 17-9, 3.63
2007: 18-6, 3.66
2008 (so far): 8-12, 4.56
Jeremy Bonderman
2003: 6-19, 5.56
2004: 11-13, 4.89
2005: 14-13, 4.57
2006: 14-8, 4.08
2007: 11-9, 5.01
2008 (so far): 3-4, 4.29
Fausto Carmona is the reason why the Cleveland Indians let C.C. Sabathia go. In their minds, they already have a much cheaper ace. You can be the judge on that.
2006: 1-10, 5.42
2007: 19-8, 3.06
2008 (so far): 5-4, 4.46
Jonathan Broxton of the Dodgers is a setup man:
2005: 13.2 innings, 5.93
2006: 76.1 innings, 2.59
2007: 82 innings, 2.85
2008 (so far): 46.1 innings, 3.11
Let’s see the Boston Red Sox young guns in action:
Jon Lester, who beat cancer:
2006: 7-2, 4.76
2007: 4-0, 4.57
2008 (so far): 10-3, 3.14
“Mr. No Hitter” Clay Buchholz:
2007: 3-1, 1.59
2008 (so far): 2-7, 5.94
Justin Masterson:
2008 (so far): 4-3, 3.55
The New York Mets are the oldest team in the league, but have a 1st round pick named Mike Pelfrey:
2006: 2-1, 5.48
2007: 3-8, 5.57
2008 (so far): 10-7, 3.85
The Mets also caught huge heat for trading Scott Kazmir to the Tampa Bay Rays. Let’s see how Scott has performed with Tampa:
2004: 2-3, 5.67
2005: 10-9, 3.77
2006: 10-8, 3.24
2007: 13-9, 3.48
2008 (so far): 8-5, 3.20
Pretty good for a kid who pitched on a last place team for the 1st 4 years. He’s also been battling injuries this year, when the Rays are in 1st place.
The Minnesota Twins are grooming Fransisco Liriano to be the next big thing, but are limiting his innings pitched to avoid his service time and free agency. They even let Johan Santana walk.
2006: 1-2, 5.70
2007: 12-3, 2.16
2008 (so far): 1-3, 7.16
It’s amazing that none of these kids won 20 games or the Cy Young Award yet, even with all that talent and “stuff”. It’s also amazing how most of them don’t have super-low ERAs, have mediocore W/L records, and are generally not that consistent year to year. Wait a minute, check this guy out:
17-9, 2.60
24-4, 1.53
17-6, 2.84
15-7, 3.21
18-9, 3.19
Gotcha. That was Doc Gooden ages 19-23. Now that was real production. He was a kid who was able to translate his talent to on-field success. He was one in a kind. The bottom-line is that none of the above guys are like Doc, and the MEDIA should not even compare any newcomer to him unless they win 17 in their rookie year, with an ERA in the 2′s.
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My funniest observation is when announcers of baseball games actually jinx players through their outbursts. For ex:
1) Buchholz is pitching a marvelous game, a no-hitter, who would have ever thought…and there's a base hit. Darn!!!
2) This guy rarely strikes out at the plate (Placido Polanco)…well fans Polanco was just called out looking at strike three.
Or…
3) Manny Ramirez is hot with the bases loaded, batting .444 w/ RISP…there's a drive, deep right field, caught at the wall. I thought that one was gone too.
You see these are just some examples of how Radio/TV announcers jinx a player by talking good about them, but the exact opposite happens in that at bat. RR
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NICEEE!!!! HOTT YOUNG STUDS!!!
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bravo what a bunch of young studs!
can i have the felix hernandez base?
Just watch as this non-story (“Professor from New England Nerd School says Red Sox will win AL East? How can we lose?”) is picked up by Red Sox-loving ESPN and extensively cited by Peter Gammons. Paradoxically, that will make it all that much harder to forget during the last two months of the season, if the inevitable Boston collapse has not begun before then.
Yes.
I think his velocity will never be the same, but he’s a smart and mature guy with great stuff.
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Jonathon Broxton sets up for that Asian closer. Ya gotta think Brox will be freed as soon as he hits free agency.
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In many ways, the company line is that today’s GM’s are shy to throw a young stud into the majors quickly, but all the big names in this post HAVE been thrown to the wolves. The GMs just limit their innings pitched, something that is the opposite of how Doc was handled.
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I’m a patient man. Maddux got shelled for 2 years before becoming a superstar. Glavine- 4 years.
Great stuff … I’m glad Gammons is occasionally right … but like you said, not even Lester or the Phillies pitcher compares with Doc.
As a matter of fact, the only guy who has a shot at that kind of phenom status for five seasons is JOBA — the one guy who was not noticed by Gammons and his ilk!
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Do you think Phil Hughes will ever return to that guy who was tossin’ a no-no in Texas, prior to the injuries? Please say yes!
Is it time to free Jonathon Broxton from the Dodgers? Why is he a set-up guy with those numbers?
I’m glad the Yanks freed Joba. I wish the Mets would free Heilmann.
Interesting commentary about that
“young” pitcher named Doc! He was
the best there was, the best there is, and the best there ever will be!